Chemtrail Delusions vs Scientific Method

by Dr. Ed Berry

EXB150On the left, we have global warming believers. On the far right, we have chemtrail believers. It gets worse. Read on.

At the request of some friends, I watched the 15-minute video by Jeff Rense and Dane Wigington titled “The End of Natural Weather.” Their video is full of myths about contrails and geoengineering with HAARP and Fukushima myths thrown in for added effect. Their video claims our government has changed our weather by dumping chemicals from high flying jet aircraft.

Jeff and Dane claim their photos of normal jet contrails are government-caused chemtrails because they persist longer than other “normal” contrails. The fact is contrails are well understood in atmospheric science. Contrails persist longer when the air at their altitude is more humid and cold enough to cause water droplets to turn to ice. Spreading is dependent upon natural turbulence.

Jeff and Dane claim “no natural weather exists anymore” as they ignore the many scientific studies that prove there is nothing unnatural about our current weather. Unfortunately, some people believe contrail alarmists rather than real science.

In fact, most people first believe what they want to believe and then reject facts that disagree with their belief. Thus, they never progress beyond their false beliefs.

Since the dawn of the human race, false beliefs have fooled people. Some false beliefs are harmless but others are not. Aztec priests cut out the hearts of live people in the false belief this would bring rain for their crops. People set fire to innocent ladies because they believed these ladies were witches. Today, belief in global warming is used to tear down America’s energy production.

The solution to this irrationality is available but few people use it to kill their myths. Some people prefer myths over truth, especially when myths predict a doomsday. Even the newspapers know, “If it bleeds, it leads.”

More than 2000 years ago, Aristotle and Plato found ways to distinguish between truth and fiction. Since then, some very smart people, including Popper, Einstein, Feynman, Kemeny, and others, helped develop the scientific method. Today we know the scientific method is the only way we humans can separate truth from fiction.

The scientific method is for everyone, not just for scientists. It’s not hard and it’s common sense. Watch this one-minute video that shows Richard Feynman teaching students the scientific method. You will learn more from this one-minute video than you will by watching hours upon hours of videos that promote the chemtrail myth.

My friends also sent me other websites to review.

Chemtrails911 shows some US Military contracts for 2007. However, these contracts do not relate to chemtrails. They are just what they say they are: military contracts.

New Age of Inoculation talks about nanotechnology in medicine and implies evil delivery of this technology is part of chemtrails. Sorry, any evil delivery of this technology will not be done at 35,000 ft and has nothing to do with chemtrails. Some of what this article discusses is low-level spraying to reduce diseases.

Rense published “What Chemtrails Really Are“. The writer has no idea what she is writing about. Just because someone puts together an article with buzz words believers want to hear, does not mean the article is correct. It is not. It is complete nonsense.

Let’s look at these alarmists claims another way.

Suppose all this scary technology has potential to be developed. Who would you rather have control this technology: America or Russia and China? I choose America. Never think you gain anything by restricting military research. It is what is saving your butt. If we were to restrict America’s military research, then America will become subject to China or Russia. That is the real world. It’s a jungle out there.

If you are concerned about advances in science and technology, your first action should be to vote for people who are true Americans who will support America. Yet, many who object to military technology are the same people who ranted against Romney for being a neocon or a Mormon and thereby put the most dangerous enemy we have in the White House. Not smart. Not smart at all.

Get real and get smart. Science and technology are the force behind military strength. The country that dominates in military technology will rule the future. China and Russia have very good scientists and engineers, unrestricted by global warming and chemtrail believers, who are rapidly advancing their military capability. One slip by America and we will be their slaves.

Learn how to vote to improve America. This is the subject of my articles on the True Voting Principle that some tea party folks reject because it is a solution rather than an alarm. Your first duty should be to learn how to vote to save America.

Alarmists love chemtrails.

My friend Jim White of NorthWestLibertyNews (now changed to The Liberty Brothers Radio Show) interviewed Elana Freeland about her book “Chemtrails, HAARP, and the Full Spectrum Dominance of Planet Earth.” She talks about Morgellons (a delusional belief). Her book talks about HAARP, MKULTRA, full-spectrum dominance, and wireless access to our bodies and brains. Her book and interview are bunk.

Here are some well-deserved one-star ratings of her book on Amazon:

Pure barking madness: This gets 5 star reviews because of audience self selection for conspiracy theorists. It’s such sheer conflated rubbish that sensible people would never buy this.

Pure bunk with no relationship to good science. I have good knowledge of HAARP, and the things she says are totally out of the realm of reality.

Buy this book if you have a low IQ: And believe in ghosts, invisible men in the sky, aliens shot Kennedy, Obama is a Muslim spy, or other such 3 year old nonsense.

Skip “Skip”: These web-selling and book selling chem-tales have been very popular with the Chicken Little and anti-government set for several years now. Hey, want to buy my magic chemical that the auto industry doesn’t want you to know about; you’ll get 87 mpg guaranteed! No, how about my device to plug into the wall and cut your electric bill in half? Guaranteed!

A chemtrail believer comes to Kalispell to talk about the water compact.

Dr. Kate Vandemoer is a prominant chemtrail believer. As such, she does not follow the scientific method and we cannot trust her opinion on anything. Her website makes unscientific alarmist claims about chemtrails.

Her Geoengineering Weather says:

No longer a secret then, we know what they are sprayingwhy they are spraying, and the additional tools that are used to manipulate the human environment and inject trouble into our very breathing space. While each one of these tools is dangerous in itself, the combined use of HAARP, chemtrails, and nanotechnology is wreaking havoc across America. When you artificially heat the atmosphere, change its electrical properties, and send vibrational pulses into the earth, what is unleashed is something that cannot now be controlled or predicted.

Her Geoengineering Disaster says:

But as readers of this blog have pointed out, ‘geoengineering’ as chemtrails, HAARP, the explosion of the BP rig in the Gulf of Mexico, earthquake generation, tornado activity, and now the flooding of the entire mid-west via the Missouri and Mississippi Rivers are simply activities that create or have magnified disaster. The ‘crisis’ created allows the government the ‘opportunity’ to step in and take over.

What is developing in the midwest from the Dakotas to Missouri is a deliberate food disaster of epic proportions, and it originates in the manipulation of the hydrologic cycle in the upper basin states. Crops cannot be planted because it is too wet from rain, and those crops already underway in the lower basin states are underwater and long gone.

Her Why Spray the Skies says:

Edward Griffin’s excellent film entitled ‘What in World are they Spraying” educated us all to the deadly toxins that are being sprayed into the atmosphere as those stripes across the sky called ‘chemtrails’, or ‘persistent contrails’. It is geoengineering disaster for us all.

Now comes the follow up film called “Why in the World are they Spraying” that begins to fill in the picture…and its all about world domination.

Who is doing the spraying? This is Satan’s design, and Satan’s confusion.

More of Dr. Kate’s unscientific opinions are here: Unraveling America and Satan Knows his Time is Short.

Dr. Kate is a pseudo scientist. Nevertheless, being one gets you attention, interviews, and speaking engagements.

You would not expect someone like Dr. Kate to give you a reliable opinion of the Northwest Montana CSKT Water Compact.

Nevertheless, Jim White did an interview with Dr. Kate about her opinion of the Water Compact. The title is “Population Control via Water Control” because her thesis is the water compact is bad because it is a government conspiracy to control population in Montana. If you have an hour or so to waste, you can listen to her interview. She gives her alarmist opinions but no facts to show whether or not the Water Compact is a good or bad idea.

There’s a market for this kind of nonsense but I will not engage in it.

A few weeks ago, I talked to an real expert on the Water Compact for over an hour. He explained to me how the CSKT Compact does NOT change the Montana Constitution or impact water rights across the state. He explained to me how Water Compact alarmists have not paid proper attention to past court rulings and misinterpret how the Montana Constitution applies to the CSKT reservation.

Is he correct? I don’t know, but he is the kind of person you should listen to, not because you agree with him but because you don’t. This would get you to the core of the debate rather than running away from it.

As I said above, if you refuse to listen to those who argue against your opinion, you will never learn anything. The essence of scientific training is to look for contradictions to your own beliefs. If you refuse to look for contradictions to your beliefs, you will not discover your errors and not learn the truth. That is the lesson of Aristotle and those who followed him to develop the scientific method.

I bring you the truth. Go elsewhere to find your fiction.

21 thoughts on “Chemtrail Delusions vs Scientific Method”

  1. You might stand a good chance of debunking some nut cases who have produced a video, BUT…
    If I remember right…hum-mm, yeah. There is a story about you Dr. Ed in the 1960's contracted to help alter weather conditions in South East Asia (Vietnam) to seed clouds and cause massive rainstorms over the Ho Chi Minh Trail in an effort to slow down or stop the North Vietnamese Army (NVA) infiltrating supplies of weapons, material and men to South Vietnam over the Ho Chi Minh Trail system.
    Rumor has it that you were apart of that operation and whether you can neither confirm nor deny, evidence and fact and a History Channel Series conclude that your early formulas on cloud theory were indeed used to do exactly that, ALTER WEATHER. Now these plans were designed to equip aircraft with the ability at dumping minerals and chemicals in the atmosphere to generate weather to enhance the Monsoon. Making the season come early and violent.
    Now we can conclude by using the slang terms, "Chem Trail", that this program is evidence of weather modification carried out by the U.S. Government. This "Chem Trailing" or dumping of minerals and chemicals to enhance or to change cloud formations was an early pioneering by man at atmospheric alteration.
    The effect of the operations was a huge success. The North Vietnamese Army suffered great losses in Laos, Cambodia and South Vietnam during the unusually heavy rains of the late 1960's.
    So to your credit, you might of saved thousands and thousands of South Vietnamese and American lives by preventing that war material from being used against us.
    Question: You deny your involvement in a government program centered around your early research in cloud formations and the possibilites there of to alter weather and influence man kind?

  2. @1 Dear Mind Farmer, Thank you for recognizing my experience in atmospheric physics and weather modification, and for doing a pretty good job of describing Operation Popeye.

    To answer your question, I am quite open about my being the only civilian participant in DOD's top-secret Operation Popeye. You can read about it in my bio here.

    Before that, I managed Nevada's Desert Research Institute's airborne weather research program. And after that, I was Program Manager for the National Science Foundation Weather Modification nation-wide research program. And as an aside, my MA Thesis in physics at Dartmouth dealt with an early version of HAARP.

    The bottom line is I am very aware of reality in weather and climate and how it can and cannot be modified. I have seen so many contrails that I can readily tell the difference between a normal jet contrail and a so-called "chemtrail".

    Therefore, I am one of your better resources when it comes to explaining to you why the chemtrail claims are pure pseudo science bunk.

  3. Dr. Berry, it is such a shame when you finally begin to shill for the dis-information propaganda elites. Next you will tell us that since there was no conclusive evidence that JFK was NOT shot by Oswald the Warren Commission report was completely factual.

  4. @3, Dear Glenn, Are you interested in truth or fiction? I produce the truth when it is available and question claims that people do not substantiate.

    Read this article on PolyMontana to find my view of the JFK assassination. Or more generally, click on category "Conspiracy" then "JFK Assassination". You have made unwarranted assumptions in your haste to criticize my article.

  5. Who is the "expert" you talked to about CKST? In the above article you do not hesitate to name individuals. If the information concerning CKST is true, then why not identify the individual you build your foundation upon? Please share his name or you run the risk of your argument being moot.

  6. @5 Dear Rhoda, In my preparation of my article, I did not have time to get permission from this expert to use his name. It was a private conversation, not an interview. So just as I would guard your privacy, I must guard his until I have his permission.

    But more important is your assumption that my argument would not be valid unless I reveal his name. Your assumption is incorrect because I do not rely on what I said of his opinion in my argument. I make no argument for or against the Water Compact.

    My argument is that we must listen to qualified people who disagree with our opinion. Do you disagree with this? Your answer is not dependent upon knowing the name of the expert I talked to.

  7. One of the things I respect you for is that you do not hesitate to lay out your supporting facts concerning specific issues for all to read and debate. I am an ardent supporter of the scientific method and understand how that method can be, and is, circumvented. One of the few disciplines that have not demonstrated this is Physics: See Sokal Hoax.

    You have written articles, such as the above, that allow your peer group and others to investigate further by supplying facts and your sources. In doing such, you allow others to follow your thoughts.

    I can appreciated that you don't have "his" permission. However, what you have done is given unsupported thought, other then an ghost "expert", on a subject that is of great importance to the people of the state of Montana with a silent qualifier of "believe me".

    I applaud your conviction to not use names without permission. I would request that you contact your "expert", ask for his permission and then allow your readers, and on this subject, peer group, to formulate their thoughts.

    You did include a qualifier that you did not know if the "expert" is correct concerning the CKST compact, but you refute another's opinion on the subject by analysis of her beliefs in chem trails. How are we, as a peer group, to know that the "expert" does not believe the same?

  8. @7 Dear Rhoda, Well to answer your question, he does not believe in chemtrails. However, I question whether this fact is important to our discussion.

    I have not presented a case for or against the Compact. I have only presented reasons to question the claims that the Water Compact is not good for those whom it will affect. Therefore, I have no obligation to defend the Water Compact.

    But I do have to defend the reasons I question the case against the compact.

    I question the case against the compact because I cannot find any valid claims against the Water Compact. I can find valid questions about the compact but I cannot find any valid slam-dunk criticism against it.

    My primary reason for disqualifying Dr. Kate is that her interview presented no valid reasons to not support the Water Compact. Instead, she presented only alarmist claims against the compact, like it is a government conspiracy to depopulate northwest Montana. These, as you are aware, don't cut it as rational objections to the compact.

    My hope is to put together a good summary of the pros and cons to the compact in the next weeks. I am not sure if I can actually do this, but I will try.

  9. I rest my case. A debate on the compact facts would be futile. It will be determined by the courts.

    What is not for debate is whether or not our form of government is representative. If this is true, then, is it the wish of the people of Montana to have such compact passed by the legislature?

    One very interesting thread of this discussion might be money; billions. I question the morals of many elected officials.

    I have little doubt about whom the "expert" is.

  10. People can see with their own eyes. Our natural weather is being controlled and manipulated. Water samples again and again come back with high amounts of chemicals. JFK's speech on controlling the weather was spot on. The California Drought is absolutely engineered. Open Your Eyes.

  11. Dr. Ed ; Question, why is it these planes are all unmarked, and the fly in a pattern east and west , then north and south all with in one hour. If conspiracy exist, it is because of government doing stupid things.

  12. Ed,

    I tend to share your skepticism on this issue, and I frequently doubt friends of mine who advise me to read or watch up on "chemtrails." However, I should direct you to a Billings Gazette article from February 16, 2007. The article was entitled, "Foursome hopes to boost snowfall," and subtitled, "State contract pays for pilot program to seed clouds."
    The article reports that "The husband-and-wife team of Jody and Erin Fischer, as well as Jason Goehring and Brook Herridge, make up a foursome from Weather Modification Inc., based in Fargo, N.D. They have been stationed in Riverton since early January and are contracted to stay through the end of March.
    Using a Piper Cheyenne 2 airplane complete with flares and probes on the wings, pilot Jody Fischer and co-pilot Herridge, fly over the Wind River Mountains and run cloud-seeding missions with hopes of producing additional snowfall, which would increase the winter snowpack and improve the runoff in the spring.
    At the appropriate time, the flares are lit and they release chemicals into the clouds, hoping to produce a reaction that will create snow."

    The article continues. Here is the link: http://billingsgazette.com/news/state-and-regiona

  13. @10 Dear Look Up, The global warming folks say the same thing. The problem is there is good data that show our weather is completely normal. Data trumps your feelings.

    The California drought is also normal. I did an analysis in 1991 that predicted the California drought would reoccur in 2013 to 2016, based upon normal expectations. That my prediction has turned out to be correct suggests my assumption of normal weather is correct.

  14. @11 Dear Fred, the claimed chemtrail jets are above 30,000 feet. You must have very good eyes to see that they are unmarked. Those planes flying east-west and north-south are different airline flights.

    Check the link above "Climate & Weather" then "Flight Radar Mt" to see the flights over Montana in real time.

  15. @12 Dear Roger, They are using a standard weather modification technology we used in the 1960's but with better equipment and measurement. They are competent folks doing the cloud seeding. As they point out, there is only a small window where their cloud seeding can work and that is when they have intermediate-size storms that do not produce much precipitation and that have supercooled water droplets, which means water droplets that are cooler than -5C but still not frozen.

    They are using silver idodide flares developed at the Naval Weapons Center in China Lake, California. We also used silver iodide flares in Operation Popeye but the clouds and therefore the seeding technique were entirely different from seeding a winter storm.

    But this has nothing to do with the chemtrails people claim they see. This is a standard winter cloud seeding operation.

  16. weather modification is legal in Montana by Statute. There are statutory requirements which must be followed but none the less it can be legal. Also check out the "Ethics in geoegineering" program at the University of Montana. Yes that is correct, at the U of M is a panel of intellectuals from around the world whom are engaged in the process of selling geoegineering to the good people of Montana. Disgusting little people

    What is most important to take from the ranting's of "Popeye" er ah Little Eddy is that he is trying to tell you, without actually coming out and saying it, is that he is in fact Godless. See he believes in the "scientific" method which in his little mind excludes God. Of course he forgets one little important fact about his "science" and that is that science is based on faith. Yes, without faith science would not be possible. Many of his little models are based in the first part on faith based assumptions.
    Go deep into little eddies past and I think what you find should prove very interesting. Maybe he too will develop a little depression caused by his work in the field of killing other humans on this earth.
    Little Eddy does not care for human life like most of us do. Oh sure, he and his comrades will tell you how if it were not for benefactors of the U. S. like he and those comrades we would all be just a bunch of boots kissing communists right now but don't believe it. Do your own research on the "Manhattan Project" that Eddie is always bragging about and dig deep and hard to truly understand what it is that Eddie stands for.
    Eddie is in fact a "Temporal Coadjutor" which is a pretty way of saying that little Eddies rants and raves are designed to bring in the new fascist state and then new world order.
    He IS a Fascist.

  17. You are a fucking moron. Typical Shill article, one or two weak points about condensation, and then right away dive into Aristotle and Aztecs. Why don't you read about Solar Radiation Management, the patents, panels being assembled to govern the spraying, and look up next time you go out. They must be paying you, but you still are a moron. You're getting sprayed too, by the way, condensation bullshit stories, or no.

    1. Dear Todd, I challenge you to provide one spec of evidence that the so-called chemtrails are poison being sprayed on the population. You can't because there is no evidence.

      For example, it would be a piece of cake to take a private jet with sampling equipment into one of your so-called chemtrails and bring back evidence that it contains "poison." Yet in all the years the chemtrail freaks have complained about being poisoned, no one has done this simple test.

      Since you apparently believe in something for which there is no evidence and such evidence, if it existed, would be easy to collect, then it sounds like you are the moron.

  18. Dear Glenn, Your comment suggests you are a true believer that our government is spraying poison on us by using so-called chemtrails.

    Why don't you and your brother chemtrail belivers hire a private jet, equip it with simple sampling instrumentation, then fly up and collect some chemtrail particles, and come down with some evidence your belief is true?

    Don't you agree it is nonsense to believe in something for which you have no evidence and the evidence, if it existed, would be easy to collect?

  19. Dear Rhoda, there are two ways to debate a subject. One is to present evidence and an argument. The other is to have no evidence or argument and to rely on an "expert."

    The problem is even if I named an "expert" you would likely reject the expert because you would not agree with the expert. So that line of debate gets us nowhere.

    I prefer the direct evidence and argument method. I did that and you could not hold up your side of the debate.

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